official: dune remains the best modern franchise
this should be obvious if you’re planning on seeing this movie, but don’t read any further if you know you’re going to see this. no hard spoilers below, but it’s a murder mystery and you don’t want your experience tainted whatsoever
much like glass onion, we see incredibly modern caricatures in an interesting setting as suspects in a high profile murder. the fringes of the rural american catholic church is an awesome setting for a knives out mystery. in that respect, you get what you signed up for — a murder mystery in a cool place featuring mr southern suave and some cute commentary on modern society. great
pretty much no humor, a forgettable soundtrack, and a surprisingly mid visual setting (think of how great this setting has the potential to look), so we’re in for a movie that hinges entirely on the quality of its mystery. this thing is riding or dying on the writing
and i respect the hell out of the franchise for trying to continually evolve, i really do. but they opened too many threads and tried to tie them all together too late in the game here. it’s a big miss for me
the core of the mystery genre rests on maintaining tension through genuinely inching towards some kind of resolution. the term i have used for this in the past is “information release”. you keep suspense high by carefully dripping the pieces towards the viewer
the peak example for this for me is probably the prestige, a movie which puts all of the pieces so plainly in front of you but which manages tone so masterfully that you refuse to believe the truth until the end
but this iteration of the knives out franchise clearly fails here, for me. there is simply too much withheld for the first 2 hours, then so much rearranged / thrown at you in the last 20 minutes that the climax ceases to feel rewarding, and makes the lack of information in the “buildup” (air quotes because it never feels like it’s going anywhere) feel empty and cheap in retrospect
there are so many open threads toseed at you that it’s unclear exactly what the mystery is, for most of the film
then, once the problem is finally made clear, the solution is thrown at you very quickly and unsatisfyingly, and not in a way that makes you go “a-ha!”
it made me go “really bro”
scroll further for a more specific critique which contains hard spoilers
for me, the reason why one would want to open grandaddy wicks’ tomb is nonsensical until far too late into the movie. i could see this movie as having a more satisfying resolution if, when you learn that young wicks orders the opening of old wicks’ tomb, you can intuit that he might be doing so to obtain the fortune
instead, you wouldn’t think he would do that, because you have zero reason to believe that the entire fortune is a gem, and very little reason to believe that old wicks ingested said fortune into his literal corpse
you of course could think all of this was happening because martha confessed something to wicks that caused him to want to open the tomb (without knowing what it was but somehow suspecting it wasn’t for some “im gonna kill and resurrect myself on easter” plot), but that chain in reasoning was loose as fuck, imo. they really did not push that line of reasoning on you at all, instead opting to leave that “josh brolin walks aghast out of the confessional” moment as one of maybe ten unresolved little clips in the movie, in a franchise known for red herring details exactly like that. i actually think it’s pretty clear the filmmakers want the viewer to believe young wicks is planning some a classic easter ressurection, rather than stealing a fortune
anyhow, i think the movie maybe works if you solidly believe that he opens the tomb to get the fortune. you can then concieve of who would want to prevent such a thing, and how a plot to prevent it could have been set into motion. the “who” is pretty clear, and the “how” is actually not so bad either, even if at first glance it seems ridiculous (becuase reasoning through this as the viewer involves you hard ignoring the possibility of resurrection, which is no easy feat for a movie that could genuinely ask you to suspend your disbelief in that way). so the “why” is really the only egregiously missing piece here
which to me, is answered by having a faster timeline on the info drip for the “martha tells wicks about the fortune which causes him to clearly be about to dip” plotline. barring the fact that martha probably knows the most about the fortune, this plotline is ENTIRELY revealed in the last 20 minutes the movie, and for how mission critical it is for the overall mystery to work at all, i find that to be an Egregiously Bad Writing Decision
AGHHH just think of how unique and TIGHT knives out and glass onion are!!! this shit isn’t even in the same category
official: dune remains the best modern franchise
this should be obvious if you’re planning on seeing this movie, but don’t read any further if you know you’re going to see this. no hard spoilers below, but it’s a murder mystery and you don’t want your experience tainted whatsoever
much like glass onion, we see incredibly modern caricatures in an interesting setting as suspects in a high profile murder. the fringes of the rural american catholic church is an awesome setting for a knives out mystery. in that respect, you get what you signed up for — a murder mystery in a cool place featuring mr southern suave and some cute commentary on modern society. great
pretty much no humor, a forgettable soundtrack, and a surprisingly mid visual setting (think of how great this setting has the potential to look), so we’re in for a movie that hinges entirely on the quality of its mystery. this thing is riding or dying on the writing
and i respect the hell out of the franchise for trying to continually evolve, i really do. but they opened too many threads and tried to tie them all together too late in the game here. it’s a big miss for me
the core of the mystery genre rests on maintaining tension through genuinely inching towards some kind of resolution. the term i have used for this in the past is “information release”. you keep suspense high by carefully dripping the pieces towards the viewer
the peak example for this for me is probably the prestige, a movie which puts all of the pieces so plainly in front of you but which manages tone so masterfully that you refuse to believe the truth until the end
but this iteration of the knives out franchise clearly fails here, for me. there is simply too much withheld for the first 2 hours, then so much rearranged / thrown at you in the last 20 minutes that the climax ceases to feel rewarding, and makes the lack of information in the “buildup” (air quotes because it never feels like it’s going anywhere) feel empty and cheap in retrospect
there are so many open threads toseed at you that it’s unclear exactly what the mystery is, for most of the film
then, once the problem is finally made clear, the solution is thrown at you very quickly and unsatisfyingly, and not in a way that makes you go “a-ha!”
it made me go “really bro”
scroll further for a more specific critique which contains hard spoilers
for me, the reason why one would want to open grandaddy wicks’ tomb is nonsensical until far too late into the movie. i could see this movie as having a more satisfying resolution if, when you learn that young wicks orders the opening of old wicks’ tomb, you can intuit that he might be doing so to obtain the fortune
instead, you wouldn’t think he would do that, because you have zero reason to believe that the entire fortune is a gem, and very little reason to believe that old wicks ingested said fortune into his literal corpse
you of course could think all of this was happening because martha confessed something to wicks that caused him to want to open the tomb (without knowing what it was but somehow suspecting it wasn’t for some “im gonna kill and resurrect myself on easter” plot), but that chain in reasoning was loose as fuck, imo. they really did not push that line of reasoning on you at all, instead opting to leave that “josh brolin walks aghast out of the confessional” moment as one of maybe ten unresolved little clips in the movie, in a franchise known for red herring details exactly like that. i actually think it’s pretty clear the filmmakers want the viewer to believe young wicks is planning some a classic easter ressurection, rather than stealing a fortune
anyhow, i think the movie maybe works if you solidly believe that he opens the tomb to get the fortune. you can then concieve of who would want to prevent such a thing, and how a plot to prevent it could have been set into motion. the “who” is pretty clear, and the “how” is actually not so bad either, even if at first glance it seems ridiculous (becuase reasoning through this as the viewer involves you hard ignoring the possibility of resurrection, which is no easy feat for a movie that could genuinely ask you to suspend your disbelief in that way). so the “why” is really the only egregiously missing piece here
which to me, is answered by having a faster timeline on the info drip for the “martha tells wicks about the fortune which causes him to clearly be about to dip” plotline. barring the fact that martha probably knows the most about the fortune, this plotline is ENTIRELY revealed in the last 20 minutes the movie, and for how mission critical it is for the overall mystery to work at all, i find that to be an Egregiously Bad Writing Decision
AGHHH just think of how unique and TIGHT knives out and glass onion are!!! this shit isn’t even in the same category